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Allan74
01-25-2010, 09:13 AM
Is anyone here familiar with WPC Treatment ?

http://www.wpctreatment.com/

One of the Vendors on the forum, who I speak to quite often, brought this to my attention and pointed me to their website for a 'read' about what it is, who is using it and ultimately, why someone might want to do this. The reason I mentioned that I spoke often with this Vendor, was to make it clear this was not a greasy sales pitch....but a decent product.

I am considering having the following items treated:
- Crankshaft
- Camshafts
- Wrist Pins

Some people have even had bearings done, but I am not sure if I will go that hardcore..... From what the information says, any lubricated friction point can benefit from this and the results are usually less wear and far less heat generated. It all sounds good, but I still have no idea what the costs are, so I will reserve judgement until then.

Read the Info, Check out the Testimonials and come back here and comment.

As you will notice, Eric Hsu is one of the Testimonials, refering to the XS Engineering Time Attack R32, for which he is the Crew Chief, so it says. (Testimonial #4)

Have Fun.

http://www.wpctreatment.com/

Muss@GeneticTuning
01-25-2010, 10:26 AM
Hm, Seems interesting for sure. As you said though, price is a clincher. I can't imagine that would be cheap.

mcfly
01-25-2010, 10:28 AM
"no other improvements other then ecu remapping"
That explains the 40 hp increase :p

I'll let you spend the extra cash to try it out.

Muss@GeneticTuning
01-25-2010, 10:31 AM
"no other improvements other then ecu remapping"
That explains the 40 hp increase :p

I'll let you spend the extra cash to try it out.

I was laughing at that too ;)

XXXsebXXX
01-25-2010, 10:52 AM
Mines as used WPC since the beginning of their Stage 1 and Stage 2 motors.
I think they were processing pistons, rods & crankshaft.

Allan74
01-25-2010, 10:59 AM
Mines as used WPC since the beginning of their Stage 1 and Stage 2 motors.
I think they were processing pistons, rods & crankshaft.

Wow, you are right, they show the crankshafts as being done......
http://www.mines-wave.com/english/CATALOG/ENGINE/COMPLETE_RB26DETT.htm

I never noticed that before. Nice one ;)

rb-racer
01-25-2010, 12:27 PM
Is it something that we really need to spend money on?
My crank journals looked very smooth before they went in.

Allan74
01-26-2010, 10:07 AM
Is it something that we really need to spend money on?
My crank journals looked very smooth before they went in.

I don't know. If this treatment gives the results that everyone says it will/does......including all the 'Testimonial' people, then it just might be worth it for engine longevity on some parts/pieces.

I think that the crankshaft in an RB would be a great start, considering the friction points and how fast this motor spins when under demand.

As has been pointed out many times before, this motor can put alot of heat into the oil at high RPM/heavy load, so why not help it out a bit ?

j-ran
01-26-2010, 10:28 AM
Isn't this wpc very similar to shot-peening?

XXXsebXXX
01-26-2010, 10:38 AM
Isn't this wpc very similar to shot-peening?

Its much more than shot-peening. Unlike shot-peening, WPC do not alter the dimensions, its gives an ultra smooth sufaces finish. And at the end, like shot-peening, you have a hardenned surface.

rb-racer
01-26-2010, 10:42 AM
Our engine would have next to no wear when we pull them apart if they were not all blowing up from oil pump problems. I think the money is better spent on the oiling system then micro shot peening the rotating assembly.

GRIP
01-26-2010, 02:33 PM
"Furthermore, solid lubricants such as Tin (Sn) and Molybdenum Disulfide (MoS2) can be utilized as media in the WPC process to embed them into the product surface"

Its a pretty cool process, you get a micro shot peen and molly coating at the same time.

http://www.300below.com/
I would have the crank chyro treated first if I was going to get it coated, may as well go all the way